06.07.07 From the Viking
GUYLINER: A DoubleViking Exposé
Gentlemen and gentlemen, there is an evil upon us. A force beyond description. A perversion of everything just and right in the world that threatens to invade our very homes and shake our gender to its very foundation. This threat – this thing that poses such danger to our race of men – is simple. Small. Seemingly innocuous. It is guyliner. That’s right – eyeliner for guys. Laugh if you must, but you will not be laughing when the armies of effeminately made-up “men” slowly conquer more and more of society. This is a call to arms, gentlemen. And we are leading it.
FACT: GUYLINER RUINED SPIDER-MAN 3

I know, I know – in addition to guyliner, Peter Parker also brushes his hair forward and generally acts like a pathetically laughable douchebag. But none of these problems would have been noteworthy had it not been for the guyliner. At first, when Peter voluntarily brushes his hair over his eyes, it’s hard not to laugh – okay, maybe screenwriters Sam and Ivan Raimi thought that this hairstyle was more threatening than it really is, and they took it out of context. No biggie – we, as an audience, are willing to look past that.
But in the next scene, when Peter tries to look badass while eating milk and cookies, something is awry. Peter is wearing eyeliner. WHY? Okay, you can rationalize the hairstyle change because Peter is willingly rebelling against his formerly prim-and-proper self. That’s acceptable. But guyliner? You’re telling me that the evil, seductive powers of the alien symbiote caused Peter to walk down to a local pharmacy and buy a beauty product, all to show how he has changed as a person? If anything, Peter should (and otherwise does) get sloppier: messy hair, a douchebaggy attitude and indifference to the feeling of others. But why would a devil-may-care asshole like post-symbiote Peter go to the trouble of applying makeup, of all things? It makes no sense. There are many things one can rationalize or forgive amongst Spider-Man 3’s many flaws. Guyliner is not one of them.
FACT: JARED LETO WAS COOL, PRE-GUYLINER

“Jared Leto” used to be a name that meant something. He was in American Psycho. Requiem for a Dream. Fight Club. Leto was in numerous kickass movies, and it appeared that he might be the next rising star of quasi-independent film.
Then he started wearing guyliner. He formed the band 30 Seconds to Mars and disappeared off the Hollywood radar for a year or so. And in his post-guyliner days, what films has Leto appeared in? Alexander, Lord of War and three other films nobody’s ever heard of. How does one go from getting the shit kicked out of them by Edward Norton to being Colin Farrell’s subservient boyfriend in a bad Oliver Stone movie? The only solace to be taken in Leto’s downfall is that it is now okay to despise him as a human being, which makes his onscreen suffering (an axe to the face in Psycho, near-death bludgeoning in Fight Club, and the amputation of an arm in Requiem) way, way more entertaining and hilarious than it really has any right to be.
FACT: GUYLINER IS THE NUMBER TWO MOST FREQUENTLY USED WEAPON OF EMOS AND SCENESTERS

Do you think “whining” and “having something legitimate to say” are synonymous? Do you simultaneously keep LiveJournal, Xanga, Facebook and MySpace accounts, all with different pictures of yourself? Do you listen to bands like The Smiths or Joy Division while pretending that (A) their music is actually enjoyable and (B) you knew about them before they were cool? Congratulations! You’re emo, and therefore -- out of righteous indignation -- you're probably not reading this exposé. Or you are reading it, and will subsequently write an angry LJ entry linking to this article as yet another example of homophobic, conservative society that just doesn’t get you, right before you once again declare yourself “not an emo, not a scenester,” remembering to follow said post with more pictures of yourself in emo and scenester poses.
Emo kids may be one of the top two easiest groups to mock on the planet (Scientologists being the other), but it has to be said: an entire subculture of American kids from the ages of 12-30 somehow managed to have such a lack of personality, such a desire to be seen as intelligent and interesting and deep, that they all decided to look and act exactly the same way. Guyliner is the number two most frequently used weapon of the emo/scenester, barely surpassed by the weapon that is this hairstyle.
FACT: GUYLINER IS, BY DEFINITION, A “BEAUTY PRODUCT”

Question: should men be beautiful? Answer: no. Men can be handsome, hunky, haggard, gruff, grizzled, buff, and slick, but they can not be beautiful. So why use a feminine beauty product like eyeliner? Women have cornered the market on absurd makeup tools – and if you ask them, most women don’t enjoy putting on eyeliner.
They obviously want to make themselves look presentable, but their desire to wear eyeliner does not come from a genuine personal belief that eyeliner is pretty, but rather an adherence to the societal expectation that, for whatever reason, girls wear eyeliner and lipstick. To willingly take a completely feminine product that even women don’t like and use it within the male gender for the purposes of beautification is downright stupid.
FACT: GUYLINER AND SUCKY BANDS GO TOGETHER LIKE SUCKY BANDS AND BAND SLUTS
-Fall Out Boy
-The Killers
-30 Seconds to Mars
-Panic! At the Disco
-Green Day’s post-Dookie career
-My Chemical Romance
These bands have two things in common. Three, if you count the copious amounts of undeserved band-whore sex they get.
FACT: JACK SPARROW IS THE ONLY MAN WHO CAN EFFECTIVELY PULL OFF GUYLINER TODAY

This is because the decided unmanliness of guyliner is completely counteracted by the undeniable, permanent badassity of being a fucking pirate.
FACT: GUYLINER WAS ORIGINALLY USED TO TERRIFY HOUSEWIVES, AND HAS SINCE BEEN PERVERTED

Before Pete Wentz and Jared Leto were using eyeliner as a substitute for personality, you know who used guyliner effectively? Alice Cooper and Ozzy Osbourne, that’s who. These guys knew that guyliner didn’t make you look more attractive, and they didn’t put it on in wimpy measures simply so they could appear more feminine. No, Alice and Ozzy slathered the stuff on, to the point where they looked like goddamned demons.
They knew that guyliner should be used -- if used at all -- to terrify, not to attract: conservative housewives across the country reeled in shock of the things Alice and Ozzy did. Part of this shock may be attributed to the whole “biting the heads off bats” thing, but another part of it was almost assuredly the guyliner. And as with tattoos and piercings and all the other things that used to be manly but now aren’t, the old generation has to watch the new generation take a symbol of anti-authoritarianism and independence and turn it into a fucking fashion statement.
FACT: COME AUTUMN, THERE WILL BE NO ESCAPE
There is currently little to no information available on or about a website called guyliner.com. The domain has been bought. A meager supply of information is present. But, like a lion in the tall grass of Africa, it waits. Patiently. Waiting for the right moment to strike and destroy everything that was once manly. Come the site’s ostensible autumn 2007 launch date, no one will be safe. Which is why we must arm ourselves now.

FACT: THERE IS NOT MUCH WE CAN DO
Considering that guyliner and its accompanying emo cultural movement get more and more widespread as time goes on, there’s really no way to stop this enemy’s inexorable march aside from simply waiting it out: in time, like all fads, guyliner will fade away and those who indulged in it will laughingly look back on the days they wore it, whimsically asking themselves, “What was I thinking?,” before laughing for a moment and realizing that they have now matured and are a more intelligent person.
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Why are they something to be admired?
You rag about guys wearing eyeliner but then then are drawn to men who sailed the seas, for months at a time mind you, with very little to no women on board. Hunting for "booty".
Seems like some of you guys my by closet emos. ha! Awesome.
Just like there's something wrong with women in makeup.
But we're used to seeing women to it. We do all kinds of wierd shit to 'look pretty'. Eyebrow waxing? Fucking hurts.
ps- you have no right to have a "Drago" avatar if you sympathize with emo kids
pps- he took the name "Alice Cooper" from a 17th century witch further proving that he wanted to scare people
eyeliner is for guys and girls.
emo is a style and a way of life.
you posting this shit..
does not make them change the way they are.
so give it up.
just because you dont understand them
you making fun of them
not all of them are "ughh i hate my life im goin to cut myself."
and this Erik guy..
"Emos are all excruciatingly the same. " ughh shut up!
and Sarah your right. theyr only fucking retards whinyn on this.
so instead of whinyn about this all.. go get a fucking life!!
yeah actually the reasoning behind the eyeliner in POTC was because pirates actually did line their eyes with kohl. the black helped to absorb sunlight and protect their eyes... similar to football players today.
so unless you're planning on sailing the seven seas in search of booty (not that kind)... leave the eyeliner to the girls.
doesn't mean he didn't rock it though.
and half of you just stopped reading, Or are snickering about it,
The reason Im on this thread, is not to "valiantly" defend emos,
Im just curious as to why Other Men feel threatened about it.
If you think about it, Men have been wearing "guyliner" for 1000s of years, Even Before christ was born, Ancient civillizations actually had it were men only wore Eyeliner. Usually Bright blues or Reds and golds. but Guyliner none the less.
I'm just curious as to why you care. When I became emo I realised I'd be made fun of, Im ok with that, Cause I wake up every morning and do my routine and make myself look good FOR myself not anyone else, Im comfortable with the way I am. So In my opinion I have alot of Balls, To wake up every morning and do that even though I know people hate it.
Anyway. WHY per se does it bug you, It should make you happy,
It gives you something to laugh about for the moment and should cheer you up. So, Really, With out us emo kids, Who would you laugh at?
****************************!!Heather!!****************************
Hell, I ended up here via an article for General Complaints. I wanted to post a consumer report complaint against Duke Energy. . . Why am I even here? I wonder. The author from the other website linked this article after a diatribe about guys wearing eyeliner. Curiousity kills the cat, no? This is easily akin to a train wreck that compels someone to gaze at it, despite the horror of it all.
Okay, I rarely do this, but freedom of speech is a pendulum that swings both ways. The author chooses to attack males that are different from his lifestyle choices in physical appearance. I propose this is likely nothing new for this individual - Nor for the many people caught up in the flux of society, wanting to be commended for mocking at the expense of others. Psychology 101 will easily help someone, who finds this article distasteful, to deduce the possible vulnerabilities in a male species that fantasizes about this kind of imaginary domination. Since the early days of cavemen comes to mind. . . .
Surely - It is his right to express his scorn; For those that agree with this author, I momentarily ponder the reasons for validating your own insecurities here. While, at the same time, keep in mind that to someone like me - Your posts appear to be an attempt to vicariously live through this one person's opinion. However, this is merely my point of view I am expressing. Not passing judgement so much as disagreeing with such compartmental thinking. . . Besides, I'm posting here - so, even marginally, this reveals something of myself that I never knew existed either.
While I have no other grounds by which to judge the author, his article certainly speaks volumes about his singular perception of the world. A personal disdain for what he does not understand is quite evident. Using words like "guyliner" - clearly in a derogatory way - is a sign of ignorance on the matter when the intention is to mock someone in favor of reward/praise.
Eyeliner is just that. Something that lines the eye. Period. There isn't even a reason to denote what gender is wearing it unless someone feels a particular motivation for differentiating the two words. It seems to me a small issue - Nevertheless, there is no such a need to distinguish the two. Are the materials used in the "guyliner" different? ...No? Didn't think so.
For those that disagree with this author, I relate with you. Feeling anger and being incensed by this behavior is quite the "human" element in us all. We associate great meaning with personal adornments - affections - even the simpler things in life : hair color - clothing and fashion alike - cars we drive - people we meet.
When someone does not intelligently debate such a base matter, with any forethought or intent to expand the mind - (though I suppose this might be MY singular opinion) - how can people not be stirred emotionally? Take heed and take heart that this author does not control the many beautiful forms of self-expression we all choose in life. Piercings, tattoos, people with hair in their eyes, people without hair in their eyes, clean shaven and scruffy alike - It is a bad idea to generalize beyond that. We don't NEED labels like Goth, Punk, Emo unless one truly finds meaning in it. That is for NO one person to decide, nor any mass of people to decide for that matter. It is as if the minds similar to the author cannot detect whether someone with long hair is male or female based on the hair alone. I find it absurd to place so many things into compartments and labels. Call it whatever you want, but if you simply described things for what they were - and not some dictated nor widely accepted generalization : Perhaps we would all save ourselves a lot of trouble.
Come on, visualize with me a moment. A guy with long hair is simply a guy with long hair. A woman with short hair is simply that. This no more makes the guy a hippie than it does the woman a feminist. See how awful generalizations truly are? I hope so. If not, maybe someday you will reconsider - but it really doesn't change the course of my life if you do not.
If we take that same equation :
A guy with eyeliner is a guy wearing eyeliner.
A girl without eyeliner / makeup is still a girl without said items upon her face.
It's that simple if you wish it to be.
To mock and to wring laughter from people at the expense of others, for the mere sake of conforming with everyone who already does so - is not a sound reason to join forces with such an author. We are all entitled to our glorious opinions, mine included! Har har. If we just take a moment to really consider the lives we destroy for our own amusement, maybe this would be a different world. Just maybe.
I'm waiting for the hordes of angry people who are ready to call me a liberal, a hippie, a pompous rebellion of the mainstream, or a reincarnate of some ever-loving figure of world peace. . . Just kidding. =)
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